keep more properties and cash flow in 2023

David Olds is the founder of Ez REI Closings, a real estate wholesale company based in Chattanooga, TN. He moved to Chattanooga in the middle of the crash in 2009 and built his business from the ground up, and he is on the show today to share his story. Listen now to learn more about Ez REI Closings and the lessons David learned through the years as a real estate investor! Quotables “No matter what the market is, always be looking for opportunities to grab long-term cash flowing assets.” “I think a lot of our customers are experiencing, what I heard at a conference the other day, a reversion. It’s not really a correction, it’s definitely not a crash, but it’s reverting back to normal.” “Anybody that’s been around just a little bit and has a fully scaled-out business, they’re doubling down right now.” “As soon as rates flatten and stabilize, it’s going to be a feeding frenzy. It’s going to be unbelievable.” “I promise you, keep some of these properties. Get some financing, buy Sub-To, learn creative financing – whatever you have to do, but build that portfolio so you can get to the end faster.” “It’s, in my opinion, the best investment vehicle in the world because it’s inflation indexed, it’s residual income, and it has an underlying asset.”

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UNIN 19 Dylan | Overleveraged

Why It’s Dangerous To Be Overleveraged In Real Estate With Dylan Tanaka

  Leverage can be a good thing for your real estate business because it allows you to do a lot more than you can by simply using your own resources. But too much of a good thing can also be bad. As a new investor, you need to learn that you have to be careful with leverage because when you get overleveraged, that’s when you get into trouble. To actually run a successful real estate business, or any business for that matter, you have to build cash flow in one way or another. That’s what today’s guest, Dylan Tanaka, has to say to anyone who’s trying to build a real estate business in this rapidly shifting market. Dylan has been in the business for over 20 years, so he clearly knows what he’s talking about. In this episode, he talks about his observations and predictions of the real estate market in Metro Detroit and beyond, his ideas on the importance of relationships and active listening, and a lot more. Tune in to hear more of his insights! — Watch the episode here   Listen to the podcast here   Why It’s Dangerous To Be Overleveraged In Real Estate With Dylan Tanaka In this episode, I’ve got my good friend, Dylan Tanaka, here. Dylan, thanks for being here. Tim, I’m super excited to be here. It’s been a long time coming and I finally get to be in the studio and chop it up with you. Dylan, why don’t you take 1 minute or 2 to tell the readers a little bit about yourself? I’m from Metro Detroit. It’s one of my famous sayings. I’ve been investing in real estate for many years. I’ve done everything from single families to multifamily, borrowing money, lending money and everything in between. I start every episode with a segment I call the Bottom Line Up Front. When I was in the Marine Corps, if we were briefing the general, they always taught us to lead with the most important thing in case they had to get up and leave or something. What I want you to do is take two minutes and talk directly to the audience. What are some things in this market they should be focused on, paying attention to, things they should be trying to do or maybe some things they should avoid? Give the audience the bottom line up front. The most important thing that new investors need to learn and be very careful about is leverage. When you get over leverage, that’s when you get in trouble. We might be moving into a bit of a real estate shift. Everyone is talking about it. I haven’t quite seen all of those numbers come through, but since I’ve been around long before the foreclosure boom and then after those days, I know what happens if you get over-leveraged. Lesson number one is to make sure that you don’t get over-leveraged. It’s easy to do, especially if you’re good at finding lenders or private money. The second most important thing I would say is you have to be able to be nimble. We talked about this the last time we sat down. You have to be able to look in a lot of different directions. Business is not just one way. I’ve been in the business for many years and I’ve done almost every segment of single-family investing and a little bit of multifamily. It’s because the market forced me to do that. If I wasn’t able to shift myself, pivot and do different things like partnerships, taking on my deals, working things out with private lenders and all those different aspects of real estate investing, I’m going to end up failing. Let’s talk about that. I’m a lender. We were pushing some 80% loan-to-value products. The industry as a whole pulled back from that a little bit. If someone’s business is built on max leverage, what are some symptoms that are maybe diagnosed? Weakness is what it is. Most entrepreneurs will tell you this, not just real estate guys. “Cashflow is air.” You have to create that cash coming in. If you’re leaning on those lenders, always using their money and not having any of your own, there’s no cushion. We’re in Dallas, but we’re talking to people worldwide. Every market is different. It’s the thing that I always say, “When the tide goes out, they’re going to see who’s not wearing their bathing suits because it can get tough.” I don’t ever want to sound negative, but I want to be real. We all want to be in this business. I want every single person to be successful so do you. The better you’re doing, the better they’re doing and the better we’re all doing because a rising tide lifts all ships, especially as real estate investors. It’s hugely dangerous to be over-leveraged. As a newer investor or even someone who’s been in the business a long time, you’ve got to learn how to use your cash or bring that in somehow. In Metro Detroit, what are your areas of focus? You’re a hybrid agent and investor, so you play on both sides of the closing table as the advisor and execution. What are you personally focused on? I shifted myself a couple of years back and said, “This market has been crazy,” especially in Metro Detroit. We were talking about Jimmy Kimmel and Johnny Carson, which tell our age. He’s a lot older than me and I’m older than Tim. We were talking about the late-night guys and Detroit was the end of the butt of the joke or however that was. The city itself is better than it’s been my entire life and probably halfway through my parents’ life. I see values going up. I don’t think that even in Detroit or nationwide, we’re going to have that crazy slide that we did before because you and I both know that it’s much harder to get

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UNIN 10 Casey | Real Estate

The Importance Of Establishing Systems And Processes In Real Estate With Casey Smith

  Systems and processes are essential because they are the veins that allow the flow of work to be efficient. Just like in any other business, real estate investors need to establish systems and processes, too. In this episode, Dallas real estate investor and the Owner/Operator at Atlas Transaction Coordinator Services, Casey Smith explains how systems and processes are essential to any business and how they have been very important to hers. She explains why you need to treat your investments like a business. She also shares why delegating tasks, doing a SWOT analysis, and learning continuously are vital to your survival as a business owner. Tune in and gain insights that will help you take your business to the next level! — Watch the episode here   Listen to the podcast here   The Importance Of Establishing Systems And Processes In Real Estate With Casey Smith In this episode, I’m joined by a local legend here in Dallas, Casey Smith. Casey, how are you? I’m wonderful. Thank you. Why don’t you tell the audience a little bit about yourself? I’ve been in Dallas and in Texas for many years. I have only been in real estate for a few years. However, I have an interesting background as a media analyst for a company out of Zurich. That’s a whole other life, but I do feel like I was groomed to be in real estate by my background. After getting a Master’s in Politics and Media Studies, I went into media analyst, eventually to sales, and tumbled into real estate. I’m a licensed realtor here in Dallas. I only work with investors and only people doing fix and flip or wholetails. I don’t deal with a lot of buyers. I’ve got that on the side. I own a company that does transaction coordinator services for investment companies nationwide. Most of the people reading this, basically handle the paperwork, the timelines, and communication. We do that and that covers my bases. I also do invest in properties myself. Casey, I start every week off with what we call the Bottom Line Up Front, the BLUF. When I was in the Marine Corps, they always said, “Never bury the lead.” When you go in to brief the general, make sure that he knows the most important thing up front in case he has to get up and leave, you take mortar fire or something like that. Bottom Line Up Front is the most important thing you see happening in the market now, things that you think investors should be doing, and things you think they shouldn’t be doing. On the BLUF, go. The bottom line is that a lot of things depend on a lot of things. I ascribed to Ray Dalio’s philosophy that if you’re worried, you have nothing to worry about. If you aren’t worried, you probably have something to worry about. You should be focusing on reality and what is happening in real-time because, at the end of the day, you can’t predict a lot. It’s important that you focus and treat investment decisions like you would a business. Even the stocks, you’re just purchasing tiny pieces of businesses. If you don’t have the mindset to understand the systems, the processes, and the supply and demand for whatever that business is, then probably you shouldn’t be investing in that. Most of the people that are probably reading this are either starting their own business, running their own business, or looking to invest. Those can be combined things. You can only really deal with identifying what’s important to your business and what you can know. If you’re making predictions, investments, or decisions based on fear or a prediction of what’s going to happen, you might find yourself in a little bit of trouble. I would highly recommend that you do that SWOT analysis that you would do on your own operation in any investment decision that you make. Lastly, I would say to focus on understanding that this is a long play. Investing in and of itself, money isn’t typically made on day one. You’re not looking for your cash returns up to 5, 10, or 15 years over that. If you start looking at your numbers that way, you’re not going to be as panicked about what’s happening in the first five. In keeping that overall perspective and looking at the microeconomics and things that are happening within your sphere, you will be able to identify certain patterns, pivot, move, and be agile. Bottom line is that you need to position yourself to be agile to be able to pivot when things shift and change and not be fearful. You got to buy right, pay attention, work in reality, and treat your investments like a business. Let me unpack that. Treat your business like a business. Are you telling me there are people out there that don’t treat their business like a business? It depends on what stage of business you’re in. I’ve got mentors that have helped me identify what stage I’m in and how to exit and enter the new one. Everyone has to understand where they are. Most of my clients with my transaction coordinating company are closing 5 to 10 deals, but we’ve got those guys doing the 1 to 4 that are in a different stage of business. They’re in the startup or perseverance phase where they’re surviving. They’re moving, transacting, and getting the money because they don’t know what’s going to shift. The companies that are in their viability stage are slowing down slightly. Maybe they’ve got some freedom where they’re not sitting in every seat and they can observe and watch what’s happening. Not everyone understands how to run their business or knows what to look at. Most of the mentorship that they’re getting in our sphere is from people in real estate, not necessarily people that have grown and successfully built or exited companies. Much of our businesses or businesses

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UNIN 5 | Leading With Value

Investing with Purpose: Having Real Intentions in Real Estate With Donovan Ruffin

  If you want people to work with you, you need to be leading with value. Don’t make every meeting you have a business transaction. You need to actually want to help people so that they will work with you. You can’t grow your business if no one wants to work with you. This is exactly what Donovan Ruffin did when he founded Equity Cash Offer. He’s only 28, yet he buys and sells houses all over Texas while also going into new markets. He does this because he’s actually doing the work and grinding it out. Join Tim Herriage as he talks to Donovan about how he grew his business, Equity Cash Offer, especially at a time when interest rates are rising. Listen in for some great advice on how to get started in real estate. — Watch the episode here   Listen to the podcast here   Investing with Purpose: Having Real Intentions in Real Estate With Donovan Ruffin Welcome back to the show. I’m here with an all-star, Donovan Ruffin. Donovan, thanks for coming by. Thanks for having me. You are the CEO of Equity Cash Offer. Why don’t you take a second and tell everybody a little bit about yourself, who you are and what you do? I live here in Dallas-Fort Worth McKinney, Texas. I own a company called Equity Cash Offer. We buy and sell houses. We do mostly wholesale. We do fix and flips, buy and holds and a little bit of commercial. We do business all over Texas. We’re going to enter some new markets in Florida, Atlanta, North Carolina and South Carolina. We’re growing. I’m super impressed with you. You remind me of myself when I was young, except you do a lot more than me. The first thing we do is the BLUF, the Bottom Line Up Front. The Bottom Line Up Front is when I was in the Marine Corps, we’d briefed generals. They always told us, “You never bury the lead because the general may have to get up and leave. You may start getting mortar or fire. You need the general to know the most important thing.” In that context, I want you to tell the reader about the real estate market, trends you’re seeing, things you’re thinking about and things that people should be focused on or watched out for. It is two minutes of the state of the market according to Donovan Ruffin. The real estate market is very interesting. You have interest rates rising. Prices of real estate are a lot different than what it was years ago before Corona. I did market research. In Dallas-Fort Worth alone, houses are selling for about $178 a square foot on average. Before Corona, it was about $118 or $119. If you look at the dynamics of it, when you’re getting into real estate, you want to be careful about the exit strategies and your intention. Going into the real estate market, we’re focused heavily on if we’re going to buy it and put work into the house, we’re looking to keep it forever. If you look at history, 100 years ago, houses were a lot different than what it is because of inflation. Time has changed and things of that nature. You can’t lose if you have intentions of buying properties to keep them forever. That’s what we’ve been focused on. There are tons of advantages to that. You have tax cost segregation with rentals and cashflow with rental properties. With that, you have leverage because you can dabble and have more bankability. Most importantly, it’s a legacy for your family too. You’re not getting paid once off a wholesale or flip because you put all this work into getting a property, acquiring it and selling it or fixing it up and then selling it. You’re fixing it up, putting a stable tenant in there and then keeping it forever. That’s what our main intention is with the market, especially with interest rates rising. We aren’t focused on, “Is the market going to crash?” We’re excited about prices going from $178 a square foot to a lot lower because of what they used to be. That’s my take on the real estate market. You can still make a lot of money wholesaling or fixing and flipping but you get paid once versus paid forever. There’s a lot to unpack in that legacy. Your Instagram has become one of my favorites. Mainly because I was about your age when I had my first kid. You do post about your house stuff but it has 80% of the little knocks on there. That legacy means so much more. It’s not about the money, watches, cars or houses. It’s like, “Let’s level our kids up.” I learned a lot being in this business for years. I humbled myself a couple of years because the IRS wants their money. You can make a lot of money but you still have to pay taxes. I was the type that was like, “$300 of cashflow isn’t that inspiring.” Now, I don’t need the money from a fix and flip. I’d rather keep it, maintain that property and keep it and my family forever. You were talking about houses and what they used to cost. I’m working on a project in Downtown Rockwall. It’s a historic house. When it was originally built in 1885, it was 1.5 acres. The cost, when it was first sold in 1905, was $5,000. That’s for a 2,500-square-foot house on 1.5 acres in Downtown Rockwall. Now, it has been parceled up and it’s about 3-quarters of an acre. We bought it for $550,000 and it was appraised for $1.25 million. When you talk about forever, it’s exciting stuff. You pencil that in on a $100,000 house. From the wholesale, fix and flip, rentals, commercial or multiple markets, what is it that is challenging you? Is it personnel management, cost of money or not enough inventory? What are

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