Operating A Real Estate Business With Rob Fuller
Are you one of those that have a real estate dream they want to realize but just don’t know how? Then this podcast is for you! Join us as Rob Fuller, a real estate developer, investor, and visionary, shares his journey on getting into the business of buying and selling homes and gives exclusive takeaways on operating a real estate business! — Watch the episode here Listen to the podcast here Operating A Real Estate Business With Rob Fuller Welcome back. Thank you so much for deciding to spend your time with me again. I am joined by my good friend Rob Fuller. Rob, thanks for coming down. I thought I was going to have to remind you of my name. We’re that good friends. Rob, tell everybody a little bit about yourself. In 2007, I was graduating from college, thinking I was going to med school. I applied and was accepted for five interviews. I went to the first and pulled all my applications out. The funny thing is when I was dating my now wife then, she said, “You’re not going to go to medical school.” I was great at the courses and I scored well. I did well in the MCAT enough to get interviews, but I didn’t have the passion for it. What I had a passion for was real estate. A couple of years later, in 2009, my wife and I together bought thirteen houses. As time progressed, by 2016, we were buying 30 to 40 homes per month at the peak of what we were doing. At the time, there were a lot more distressed homes than today. We may see some in the next few months, who knows? I certainly haven’t seen many for the last couple of years, especially with the forbearance. There was none to speak of. As time passed, we were buying so many homes. It actually became a burden to operate with that many homes that we were buying and selling, and so we started looking at other opportunities. We had some rentals. We had quite a lot of rentals. We tried to hold on to as many of them as we could. Time passed and we started moving into land acquisitions and building from the ground up. We still sold a number of those units that we built to institutional rent groups to the point that now we have a number of communities that are in some phase of annexation, rezone, entitlement, horizontal development, or home building, all across the span where we’ll hire site contractors to do the horizontal work. Right now, we have three developments in horizontal construction. There are a couple that is supposed to be coming into that within the next few months. We’ve got a few that are in vertical construction. We’re building homes. That’s what we do now. We try to buy early. We make our money by buying right. That’s what I talk to investors about. There’s the old adage of location, location, location, which is imperative. It’s the right location in the right city at the right time. Also, it’s buying it right. You don’t speculate that this house is going to be worth $1 million in twenty years or in six months. It’s more like that for a fixed and flip. “This house is going to be worth 200% of what it’s worth today in six months from now,” just based on value increasing if you’re going to actually build into the value by increasing the asset. Some of that is probably jumping the gun a little bit about what we want to cover here, but that’s my story with investing and how I got into it. I can’t wait to ask you more questions. I start every episode with the segment I call the bottom line up front, the bluff. In the Marine Corps, when I used to brief generals, they always said, “Don’t bury the lead. Tell the most important thing up front in case they have to get up and leave.” I would like you to tell the audience the most important thing they should be focused on today, what they should be doing, what they should be avoiding, or things they should be on the lookout for. Good to go? Yes. Go. I think this goes back to what we were talking about, which is buying right. Over the last couple of years, you can make a lot of mistakes. With the market appreciating and what it has done, those mistakes could be covered up. With the market in its current state of affairs, lending is more difficult. The declining home values are potentially more dramatic in some markets, depending on where you’re at. Buying right is more imperative than ever. People have a tendency to over-project their ability to get things done in time, in money, in dollars, and in the costs of rehab. Those numbers are tight. Whether you’re buying to hold or you’re buying to flip, you want to make sure you get the numbers right on. Take a step back and maybe even take it to a mentor, a friend, or somebody else who can look at those numbers and say, “I don’t think that you’re being realistic here, here and here.” Listen to those people. There’s a saying, “Haters will hate.” That sometimes is the case. Sometimes we need a dose of reality. To say we’re going to do $50,000 worth of renovation in a month is probably not realistic. We need to take a dose of reality and step back. The economy is changing. I don’t think anybody knows exactly where it’s changing, how it’s changing, how long it’s going to take to change entirely, and what the long-term effects are going to be. There’s a lot of speculation. After something happens, everybody will be able to look back and say, “I told you so,” but from this day forward, they don’t have solid answers
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